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… like Josh Groban, Katherine Jenkins, Charlotte Church, Sarah Brightman, Hayley Westenra, Il Divo, Amici Forever etc? Why do I get the impression that most classical music/opera people really despise the genre and its artists, esp the "purists"?

I could understand if most people in the opera world object towards singers like Katherine Jenkins and Charlotte Church, but what about the Three Tenors? Luciano Pavarotti, Jose Carreras and Placido Domingo are all established opera singers with great operatic vocal to match, yet they also branch out to pop music and have many fans outside their loyal fans from the world of opera. How do most people in the legitimate classical music/opera world view that?
I'm not trying to defend those classical crossover/pop-opera singers. I'm asking coz I simply wanna know, that's all.

I do agree that in terms of singing technique, the REAL opera singers still vocally reign. You cannot compare Katherine Jenkins to Cecilia Bartoli, for sure LOL. Heck, they don't even need microphones to sing. For me, that's like WOW!

But is it so wrong if an opera singer also branch out to other genres than opera/classical music? Is it bad if an opera singer tries to put some pop music element in his/her music?
LOL to Muse – Viktor's Mommy. I like your comment on Il Divo. And as for Brightman… hmmm I dunno what to say. Back then when I knew nothing about opera/classical music, I was so into her and I idolized her a lot. But now as my knowledge in opera & classical music has slightly increased, I begin to see her in different perspectives…..
LOL LOL LOL Welcome back, del_icious_manager! I was half praying that you would come here & post your comment coz it's always fun reading your words.

Regarding Andrea Bocelli, yes I guess I should've included his name as well. The same as Brightman, I used to think that Bocelli was the opera god. But then as my opera knowledge increased and I began listening to various male opera singers (mostly in youtube LOL), I finally realized how wrong I was the whole time. Don't get me wrong, I still think Bocelli has a voice, but now I know there are plenty other singers out there who have more talent and ability than most pop-opera singers, but the general public don't necessarily know let alone recognize/acknowledge their talent just because they don't make music that people wanna hear.

But I'm still curious: what's your opinion on the Three Tenors? How do you react/respond to REAL opera singers who branch out to pop music, kinda like Pavarotti, Carreras & Domingo as I've mentioned?
Great answer, del_icious_manager! Yes I do agree that the Three Tenors really have talents. They all can sing, esp Domingo. I really love that guy! And Pavarotti (RIP) was also a great artist.
OMG musicyh, I wholeheartedly agree with you 100%. Yes, I do think there are many musicians with more talents than those classical crossover artists yet they don't get the recognition they deserve just because they don't branch out to pop music.

You're right, I think the reason why many classical people get so pissed off with these pop-opera & classical crossover artists is bcoz the general public consider these classical crossover artists "classical/opera musicians" where in fact, they actually aren't. I do feel sad with the fact, but I certainly don't HATE those classical crossover artists.
You're right, Malcolm D. When it involves music INDUSTRY, then the focus is more on profit and sales. Talent no longer counts as long as you sell well. So sad and repulsive, I must say. Just look at the garbage on the music chart these days. I can't believe people would listen to that crap.
LOL to Iwantmytwodollars…..

And to Lisa, AMEN! I also agree with you.
To il Tenore: LOL Yes I actually post this question in various sections, not just in singing & classical, coz I want to get more opinions & answers. I have read your answer in the singing section, and I think it's a good one, so thanx =)

And regarding that whole TV idol thing, yes I hate it too. Those so-called Idol competitions are just devices to produce INSTANT atists where in my opinion, a great artist should NOT be made instantly. It takes a lot of hard work, dilligence, learning process & many many improvement that can take many many years in order to build yourself to become a TRUE/GREAT artist. And truthfully, I don't see that in those Idol or X,Y,Z,whatever-Factor competitions.
Whew, so many great answers here! It's gonna be really hard for me to choose the best answer LOL

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To those who are just twisting my arm behind my back. lol

Choose your favorite from this list, or add your own pick. Say why if you feel like it.

1. Andrea Bocelli.
2. Luciano Pavarotti.
3. Mario Lanza.
4. Enrico Caruso.
5. Placido Domingo.
6. Jose Carreras.

Thanks & have a great evening!

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I understand that most opera singers can't belt. Even if they have that "belting" ability in the first place, they would most likely lose that ability after vigorous training of opera.

But I wonder, can opera singers sing musicals? I mean, singing like Julie Andrews in the "Sound of Music" or Marni Nixon in "My Fair Lady" (the movie). Although their singing style cannot be considered as "belting", but they sing mostly within their chest register. They only employ the head register when they reach high notes. And I believe that's what most musical performers usually do. Unlike opera singers who tend to sing a whole performance within their head register (esp. female opera singers).

I know there are several opera singers who have done or performed in musicals throughout these years, such as Helen Traubel or Kirsten Flagstad. But when I listened to their singing (in youtube), they seemed to sing as if they were singing opera, not musical. Their singing style in musical was no different than their singing style in opera. So I wonder if opera singers are also taught/trained to sing in musicals as well? Can opera singers sing musicals too? Or perhaps singing musical is a "gift" by itself and only several opera singers possess this gift?

For any (female) opera singers here in Y/A, do you sing musicals too? Can you sing/perform a non-operatic song using mostly your chest voice?

Thanx in advance.
LOL you, yourself and you… good one… =)
Thanks for your answer too, babulas.

Regarding Mario Frangoulis, well he's not exactly an opera singer, now is he? He's what I consider a popera (pop-opera or classical crossover) singer. Sure, he can tackle some operatic arias and he does sound "classical" when he sings, but he's not necessarily regarded as an opera singer in the mold of Enrico Caruso, Jussi Bjoerling, or Luciano Pavarotti.

Besides, Frangoulis is a MALE singer. Most male opera singers can flip flop from opera to pop songs & musicals back-and-forth easier than their female counterparts. Well, not all, of course, but generally, male voices can sing any art forms and change roles easier than the female ones.

I wonder if there are FEMALE opera singers who can also flip flop from opera to musicals (as well as any other art forms) as easily as the males.
LOL thanx nichic. And no, I don't think your answer is the worst. A lot of people give worse answers than yours in many other Q's. At least you give an effort in my Q's and I still value that. So, don't worry. =)

Anyway, I haven't opened the link yet but regarding your age, well I think 12 y.o. is a too young to learn opera let alone to refer him/herself as an opera singer. I applaud you for trying to learn singing opera since early age, but you should be careful in doing so because if you're only 12 y.o, then chances are your voice hasn't fully developed yet. If you're pushing yourself to sing heavy operatic arias when your voice is not ready yet, it can permanently ruin your voice in the future.

My advice is: be careful! It's okay if you wanna learn singing opera but do it slowly and step-by-step. Let your voice develops and grows naturally first before you begin tackling meatier arias/songs. Hopefully, you can eventually become a succesful LEGITIMATE opera singer. Good luck!
Hello there, Ms. Chick and Ms. Lynn! Glad to have you here…. =)

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